Adam Torres and AyseDeniz discuss the AI Vibes Summit.
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Listen to coverage of the AI Vibes Summit in Santa Monica, California. In this episode, Adam Torres interviews AyseDenize Gokcin, Classical Pianist & Composer, explore AyseDinize’s music and AI.
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About AyseDeniz Gokcin
As a concert pianist and TV/Media/Ad composer at Borderless Music LLC, she curate, produce, and perform shows that blend classical and contemporary music genres, reaching audiences around the globe including her own fans now exceeding 500K! With the help of her core team of arrangers, session musicians and audio engineers, she manage the overall musical branding for companies as well as create online piano education courses for all levels.
She hold a master’s degree in piano performance from the Royal Academy of Music, where she received the Maud Hornsby Award and the Licentiate of the Royal Academy of Music (LRAM) in piano teaching. she also have a bachelor’s degree in piano performance and literature from the Eastman School of Music, where she was awarded the Howard Hanson and the Clements Scholarships, as well as the John Celentano Excellence in Chamber Music Award.she have given her concerto debut when she was nine and performed in 25 countries as a soloist. Her specialties include classical crossover music composition, production, and musical branding.
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Hey, I’d like to welcome you to another episode of Mission Matters. My name is Adam Torres, and if you’d like to apply to be a guest on the show, head on over to missionmatters. com and click on Be Our Guest to apply. So today I am covering the AI Vibes event held by Tal Navarro, and I’m having so much fun.
I was able to get Aisha Denise on the line, and I said that correctly, Aisha Denise? Yeah. Just caught her off stage, had an amazing performance. First off, I just want to say, I really enjoyed that performance and thank you. Thank you so much. I’m glad you enjoyed it. So just to catch the audience up that weren’t here, obviously you got to play with AI, you got to play with a legendary musician as well.
Talk to me about that experience. Yeah, it was the first time we incorporated AI with Scott cause I’ve performed with him before, Scott Page, the amazing saxophonist of Pink Floyd and. And super tramp. And yeah, he is so humble and just a great, great person. Very modest. So today was like very spontaneous.
We first tried to generate some AI beats and then a little bit like showed the audience how it works. And then we jammed over an electronic track I created. Using AI, literally like really like spontaneously. Cause I told him about this yesterday. Cause Tal was like, Oh, you know, like, are you going to do something?
It’s amazing. Literally. Yeah. Tal was like, Oh, I, I told everybody that you would incorporate AI music in the, in the performance. The AI part was the visual part. And we were like, you did it. And so we’re like, okay, let’s do it. So I jammed over that, like just improvised. And then we did the Pink Floyd arrangement that I have transcribed in the style of Franz Liszt, who is a.
So in my previous project called Pink Floyd classical concept, it’s basically reimagining Pink Floyd songs as if they were written 200 years ago by this Hungarian classical composer. So it has a lot of like rituals of passages on the piano. So we created like a new genre in a way because it’s not classical Not rock.
I don’t know what it is. One of the other things that you did, you did this, a test with the audience. You had three different versions of a Chopin song. Like, talk, talk to me about that. Yeah. So that part was a sneak peek and it was just like fun thing I do usually at the, the AI club. Concerts. I do where I asked the audience, can you tell like, which one is composed by AI, which one is composed by me and which one is by Chopin?
Cause I, I tried to generate music that is in the style of a legendary composers and Chopin was obviously one of them and I am working on Mozart one, Bach, Beethoven, I’ve done a Vivaldi one before where you can watch on YouTube, it’s like a whole orchestra and I’m playing with the AI orchestra, which is kind of insane.
So, yeah, I have a lot of fun with like my, my. Goal is to educate the people and really preserve history and really like credit all the amazing composers that like led the way and created and invented a lot of this that we’re using now. And you talk about your process and how you’re collaborating with AI.
So sometimes people think I was fascinated because I haven’t heard somebody like yourself with your musical background who could curate AI. Working with the AI and dig deeper and be able to pull out the, you know, there’s a lot of that comes out, but how much of it’s actually good. What are you going to use?
Talk a little bit about your process. Yeah. The process is very meticulous, I would say, because you know, people might think, Oh, she just pushes a button and then it comes out necessarily like that. I actually like spend a lot of hours just trying to build a piece. It’s almost a puzzle pieces, but you build those bricks to like, kind of like, so I generate like You know, lots, lots of, lots of tracks.
And then I pick the one that has like a seed, like a really meaningful core. And then I extend it. And then I, if I need to, then I export it to my project file as separately. And then I edit it at layers or add other sections. And like, so it’s, it’s like curation, but I try to make it so that it makes sense to listen to a piece and it’s coherent and it has like an intro and a middle section, maybe a different format.
Like, there are so many forms in classical, like rondo, or sonata form, and like fugue, and so it’s interesting to see if I can build those things from AI generated music. What are your favorite part of some of your favorite parts about working and creating with AI and melding it with your traditional process and practice?
Like what, what do you say from your favorite parts? I think my favorite part is just the speed of it is incredible. So it would take like, I don’t know, like something that I don’t know, let’s say is electronic beats, right? Like I don’t know how to create electronic beats. I’m not a DJ. And when I ask AI to create beats, it’s just so fast.
And so like. that I don’t need to like spend money to hire producers. And now like, it’s just, I was talking a little bit about how like the music industry is really at a low at this point, I think just because like, it’s so hard to earn money from music streams. It’s just like, Yeah, it’s another topic, but I think AI is enabling us to try new ways and experiment and have really good results without spending money too much on recording studios or, you know, like, I mean, you could still record, but it’s more like an orchestra, for example, it would cost me like 20, 000 to record with an orchestra, Within a symphony orchestra per day.
And like, it’s just not going to happen. Like unless like, I mean, it has happened before, but only like one time when, you know, we were working on a huge project and they sponsored it and like, you know, so these things are rare and AI is really. You know, benefiting the independent and the up and coming and emerging artists for sure.
So I really liked that. And also it’s really creative. So I could just like make mistakes and that’s great. I could be like, okay, now make this like, I don’t know, like Oriental and Samba beats, merge them. Like, it’s just like nice to just imagine what would happen, you know? So it expands my horizons and sometimes it’s a really unexpected result.
And I’m like, wow, that just actually worked, you know? And I would have loved it. Never imagined it to work. So I think it’s really like getting out of the whole, like little nitty, like processing things that I would normally spend hours on and then really like being able to be like, okay, if I could create anything, what would it be?
Wow. Like it’s without bounds now. So your creativity is Wow. Final question to the new up and coming artists, to people that are just musicians out there specifically that are just getting acclimated to AI or thinking about where it fits within their world or their creativity and what they’re doing.
You’ve been working on this for a bit now. What kind of things would you tell them as they explore their creative process with it? Yeah, I think they should figure out some tools because AI is here and it’s going to stay like it’s, you know, it’s going to happen. So regardless of their position, I think it’s really, really good for them to start learning those tools and seeing like what’s happening in technology and like, how can I incorporate it so it doesn’t take over my job?
And like, and so I think I really just suggest them diving into it, like Googling, like music, AI companies and tools, and then just like trying. That’s what I did. Literally, I’m not a tech person, you know, I just started experimenting with them and I found my own like way that I really like and it has like a direct link to my career where it benefits me.
And as a pianist, especially because I love being on stage, it’s enabling me to create shows in so Such speedy ways that was impossible before, like, you can ask me now, like create a whole concert in two days, you know, based on, I don’t know, like ancient Egyptian language, blah, like, I don’t know what, and then I could do that literally, like, I can go home and like, start talking.
Generating all this stuff. And you can do that. I do want, because I want to, I want to bring up one thing. I know I said, that’d be the last question, but we’re still on time. Don’t worry about, I know you got to go, but you can do it because you’re classically trained. You have all of this, this, I would say, encyclopedic knowledge of what you went through.
And I guess maybe just by. One, just sprinkle a little bit of this, what you, what you mentioned on stage, because it’s not like you’re just this, and I don’t mean this, no disrespect to anybody that’s out there creating or getting started, but you put in the work to be able to do this. Can you just comment on that just for a moment or two?
Because that’s the way you talk about it. I would have thought one thing, but then when you explained to me the rigor you went through, I’m like, yeah, she can do it, but that’s because it’s, it’s her. Thank you. Well, it’s the first time I’ve, I’m talking about these things now because I never thought I would like, you know, speak about it.
Basically in college I studied piano performance but also keyboard literature in which we had to like analyze every piece written for the keyboard instrument like from like even not just like the grand piano like all the history like harpsichord clavichord like all the like earlier instruments too and even like not even just piano also gregorian chants.
Like, like just like really early music to now. And we were given in the exams, like snippets to either listen to, like, let’s say like 15 seconds of a piece. And then we would need to exactly tell them who wrote this, which year, where was it, which part of the piece is it? That’s the hardest part. Like you would need to tell like, Which I was thinking from my, my little understanding, I’m like, Oh, it’s like a Somalia.
That’s what I was thinking when I’m sitting there, what is the crepe? What’s the flavor? What’s the period? What’s the, what was the soil? Like, what was the, it’s crazy. And then there are also other exams we had to take where like, they would give us sheet music with missing notes. And then we would need to fill in those notes and then also talk about like, what was the structure and like, even like masses.
It’s like, Oh, we wouldn’t need to write that. The notes of a curie or something or a hallelujah. But now that in retrospect, that training for what you’re able to do. Sure. It, you can do a concert or create something, but that’s because you have all this massive body of work that you’ve already put into it.
Yeah. So what happens now is I, when I hear an AI generated music, I can hear the data. Like, I’m like, I can hear how that was trained that blows my mind. And then I’m like, okay, well, and then I can even hear the specific pieces that were used in the training. Cause you know, so there’s a lot of like compositional elements to like, you know, you have like a theme and some composers flip it upside down.
They reverse it and like all these cool things they do. But you just need to, you know, Like hear it and yeah, so it’s been interesting. I had to bring that out. I noticed that the last one was the final question. That was the final one. Other than I want you to look into the camera and tell the audience where they can follow you, hear your music and and, and stay connected.
Of course you can follow me on all social media platforms. If you search for a. D pianist. So those are my initials. A alpha delta. Yeah. And pianist as in piano player. I’m on Instagram, Facebook, even My website is ad pianist.com. Mm-Hmm. YouTube channel. Also ad pianist. And I have a ton of videos and I’ve also put some of the last ai, compositions that I’ve created there that I’m playing myself. So yeah, thank you so much for having me. Thank you for coming on and to the audience, just so you know, we’ll put the links to to the website and all that good stuff in the show notes. And speaking to the audience, if you haven’t hit that subscribe or follow button yet, definitely do that because this is a daily show each and every day.
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