Resona Health CEO Mark Fox shares how his energy therapy technology is helping people heal naturally.
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In this Mission Matters episode, host Adam Torres sits down with Mark Fox, CEO of Resona Health, to discuss his journey from aerospace engineering to health innovation. Fox reveals how his passion for helping others inspired him to create energy-based devices that bring relief to those suffering from chronic pain, stress, and mental health challenges.
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About Mark Fox
Entrepreneur, scientist, engineer, author, creative thinking consultant, crop formation researcher, and former Space Shuttle Chief Engineer. Hot Air Balloonist for 35 years, and built his own airplane.
Inventor of VIBE, the world’s only “Pocket” Pulsed Electromagnetic Field (PEMF) device.
The frequencies are extremely low energy and safe. The VIBE operates at frequencies that are 100,000 times less than your cell phone. The participant simply wears a PEMF device around the neck with a lanyard, or place it in their pocket, while watching TV, reading, walking, cooking etc.
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Hey, I’d like to welcome you to another episode of Mission Matters. My name is Adam Torres, and if you’d like to apply to be a guest on the show, just head on over to mission Matters.com and click on Be our Guest to apply. All right, so today I have Mark Fox on the line and he’s CEO of Arizona Health. Mark, welcome to the show. Hey thank you for having me. All right Mark. So we got a lot to talk about today. So we’re going to talk about creating natural side effect free solutions for pain stress and anxiety. And we’re going to get into the work you’re doing over at Rizona Health. But just to get us kicked off, we’ll start this episode the way that we start them all with what we like to call our mission matters minute. So Mark, at mission matters, our aim and our goal is to amplify stories for entrepreneurs, executives and experts. That’s what we do. Mark, what mission matters to you? You know, this technology that we’re going to talk about is most people that come. So we’re providing hope. That’s that’s the punch line is most people that come to this technology or find it are either long term in physical pain or mental pain and usually both. And everything else they’ve tried doesn’t work for them. So either the side effects of the drugs, um, people hate, some of the side effects are awful. So that’s how people come to this technology is they go out and seek, um, energy therapy and things because everything their doctor has given them in the past doesn’t work for them. So it’s providing hope for people that have been struggling long term with, like I said, physical or mental pain. Yeah. That’s It’s great. Um, love bringing mission based individuals on to share why they do what they do, how they’re doing it, and really what we can all learn from that as well, and how we can benefit. So good to have you on. Uh, I guess just to get us get us started here. Um, pain, pain management, um, healthcare, like, like give us a little bit of your background. And really, what brought you to Arizona Health? Yeah. So my, I never planned to be in this space. Um, it’s my dog is the answer. Uh, my dog twenty seven years ago was she couldn’t come up the stairs. And unfortunately, she had severe arthritis in her spine and there was no solution for it. Um, and then a veterinarian friend of mine said, hey, there’s this magic machine. It’s an energy machine that puts out frequencies that can reverse arthritis. So that’s how I got, first of all, I’m like, well, that’s not real, okay? I’m a rocket scientist. It’s like, that’s that’s fake. And and when you say you’re a rocket scientist, literally former NASA aerospace engineer, right. I just want to throw that out there as you drop a rocket scientist, right? So it didn’t work for NASA? Almost nobody does. I work for a contractor that NASA doesn’t really build anything. I work for Morton-thiokol, but I was a chief engineer on the space shuttle. Yes, for a number of years. Um, so, yeah, I’m skeptical. Like, everyone should be about this kind of stuff. But again, it was my dog. So I’m like, well, um, I’m going to try it. And the motivation that I got for this technology was I saw initially what it could do for PTSD. Um, and in fact, we had the largest study in the world with this technology in PTSD with a ninety eight percent success rate, which is phenomenal. And I just saw what it could do for PTSD, but it was being held hostage in clinical environment, and there weren’t that many machines. The machines were very expensive. And so I naively jumped in and said, hey, you know, I’m going to go engineer and build something that’s affordable and make a pocket sized device. So it wasn’t near as easy as I thought it was going to be when I first started. But yeah, that’s what we ended up with. And so yeah, it’s it’s energy therapy. And if it’s called PMF pulse Electromagnetic Fields, which sounds real fancy, but it’s actually the Earth’s heartbeat. The Earth puts it out seven point eight three hertz. It’s called the Schumann frequency all the time. Um, the way I like to describe it is nothing in the world happens without an energy exchange. So you don’t eat food, you don’t breathe oxygen, you don’t drive a car, you don’t make s’mores on a campfire. You don’t fall down and hurt yourself. All of them are energy exchanges. Yeah. So the energy can be exchanged a number of ways. Electrical current a lot of people are familiar with the Tens unit or PMF. Magnetic fields, light, sound and vibration. So it’s putting energy into the body. And we can get into more details and go down multiple rabbit holes there. But that’s at the highest level. That’s what it’s doing. It’s transferring energy to the body. Yeah. And you, um, you’re also a military veteran, correct? Like. Yeah, from a benefits point of view. You can’t measure it. I mean, I was in the Army Reserves for eight years. Um, I was a combat engineer, but I don’t have any benefits from being in reserves. But, yes, I was in ROTC in high school and college, and, yeah, I was eight years. I was just wondering, like when you when you were thinking about the concept and the idea of, um, of, uh, you know, PTSD and use this technology like, like why that was kind of, like, near and dear to you, um, just because of the forty four suicides a day, that’s why. So I. And I bring that out because I don’t like to assume, like you, you’re from that world, and you understand. But I don’t like to assume that everybody else understands. And and I like to bring it up whenever I can so that there’s more awareness built around that, for sure. So there’s twenty two military veterans a day, fifteen first responders, five medical workers, and two active duty that commit suicide every day. That’s just the military and first responders. That’s not counting all the civilians out there, right? So there’s tons and tons and tons of suicides, unfortunately. And so it helps, you know, we talked before about stories with that is. Yeah, it’s. I have like twelve women working for me in pajamas, right, that are answering emails and phone calls and sending stuff. And I told them, I said, this is going to be the most rewarding job you’ve ever had in your life, but it is not Orange County Housewives. This is not a reality show. This is real. People that are suicidal had a gun in their mouth. They’re getting divorced now. They’re not. So there’s it’s emotional, right? It’s yeah. We get two to three hundred emails a day, seventy five phone calls. And so you got to be ready as a person on the other end of that line, or talking to you is a real person that’s going through some kind of trauma that needs hope. Like we started off with the conversation. So it’s it’s emotional. Mhm. And um let let’s go a little bit. And thank you for sharing that because I, I like I like to make sure that people actually understand, especially if they don’t know or haven’t had much, um, much contact with individuals that are in this type of pain. You know what I mean? Um, let let’s get a little bit into, into the actual technology itself as well. And as you’re going down this process. So take maybe start in the early days for a moment. Um, you’re, you’re, you’re on this path. You understand this technology. At what point do you figure, like, hey, this is going to be like a company, like, I’m going to make this a company as you’re designing this product? Yeah. So I started off with I actually so actually the the protocols are all MP3 files. So they’re actually music and the device is actually an MP3 player without a speaker. So it’s driving MP3’s through a coil. Um, how I started that was I didn’t know if it was going to work. So I actually took a Bluetooth speaker, which was a little cassette tape that was a promotional speaker that you might get in a bag at a conference. Right? So I didn’t have to spend the money on the mold tooling, and I just modified a Bluetooth promotional speaker. It took the speakers out, put the coils in to see if it would actually work therapeutically. And that’s the first devices that we had out there. Um, because it was a Bluetooth connection, people struggle with Bluetooth and if they got a phone call or a text, it would disconnect. So we got rid of the Bluetooth connection. Just made it a complete standalone device. But that’s that’s how I started. And this is a weird thing. I’ll just I haven’t really told many people this, I love these, I love these because I wanted the inventor story to go ahead, please. So four days before I had to cut money for mold tooling for the device, four days before we got embezzled by our financial advisor and took half my retirement. My my wife. So like, do I just quit and go back to rockets. What do I do? We just lost half our life savings. Wow. My wife finally goes. Just go ahead and do it. Because you’ll be impossible to live with if you don’t. Okay, so it almost never happens. That’s her. That’s the one. It almost never happened for that reason. It’s like, wow, I just lost half my retirement. This is terrible. But yeah. So, um. And I didn’t know it would work until we kind of proved it with the prototype. I said with the speaker, and then we moved to the the new device. But yeah, we’ve got, I estimate, ten million therapy sessions now that have been conducted. And nothing’s one hundred percent right. Neither is any drug or anything in the world, but it’s north of ninety percent, um, success rate for sure. That’s amazing. And so the, the product itself, so the units called vibe. Correct. And maybe start getting into that piece of it and where we stand today. So vibe is the first product that we came up. We have a few. And for everybody that’s listening at home, um, uh, the product that Mark held up, it looks kind of like a almost like a how would you describe it? Like the size of a phone. A large phone, maybe. Um, and it’s a little smaller than white. It’s rectangular. Um, and just to. Yeah, it’s a little smaller than an iPhone. Yeah. He’s holding up both. And that’s just for the people at home that aren’t watching the video that are maybe in the car. I like to kind of don’t want to leave you guys out. So, uh. Continue, please. It’s about two thirds the size of a iPhone, but it’s. It looks like an old music iPod on purpose. Oh, yeah, it does. Yeah. Go ahead. I find that on purpose for familiarity. And this is a geeky thing, but the colors on it, on the frequencies are the same colors as a Star Trek tricorder. That. Oh, come on, that’s awesome. Yeah. Star Trek just so would have some familiarity. So there’s sixty different protocols on there. Five of them are brainwave protocols that can be repurposed for seventy other things. But PTSD, we already covered anxiety, back pain, neck pain, blood sugar. There’s a What happened? Dale Carnegie and Rockefeller screwed it up. Okay. Rockefeller decided. Hey, I own all the oil in the country, and I figured out how to make drugs out of oil. And me and Carnegie own the medical landscape. So if you’re doing anything but surgery and drugs, we’re going to pull all your funding or your licenses. So in America, in the United States, all this energy therapy got lost. Most of it. The rest of the world did not. But we got way behind on it. Tesla worked on this stuff. A lot of that stuff just got scrapped. And so where the frequencies actually come from is foggy because of all the lost history. But these are most of them are from eight thousand practitioners over thirty five years. If the frequencies are frequency pairs that change every one to four minutes. So think of a garage band, right? They’re a bunch of kids in a garage. They’re throwing a horn, a cowbell. They take out an instrument, they change a little bit, and that’s where the frequencies come from. It’s trial and error. Wow, I’ve been around a long time. Some of them are things I just made up because of the need for it. I got asked probably a hundred times for what do you have for Lyme disease? And I go, nothing. I don’t have Lyme disease. I’m not a doctor, I don’t know. So you get enough, you get on a Facebook call or a call like this and see a group of people that had Lyme disease for a decade is the most depressing thing you can possibly imagine. And it’s like, okay, I went on a research path. I went and found a doctor that figured out when it hurts, we’ll kill it. Um, the bacteria. But it’s a little clever bacteria because it doesn’t want to die. And when it does, it spits poison. And so the good news, bad news. On the first study with Lyme, it worked. But one hundred percent of the people got sick. Um, because this herxheimer reaction, the thing spit it out. Poison. So it’s like, okay, so let’s back off the power level a little bit. Run the kidney protocol to clean out your toxins, reset your system with the vagus nerve. And that’s what we’re using now for Lyme disease. So that’s one of many things where people come to us and it’s like yeah, and eighty percent of all ailments are inflammation of something. So we have inflammation protocol. We have liver protocol, uh, allergies. I mean, there’s so many kinds of allergies, food allergies, skin allergies, pollen is. And so you just kind of make a match on what protocols we have. We had I had three doctors last summer. It was kind of weird because it was in the same week that said, hey, this thing is kicking butt for Ms.. I’m like, I don’t have an Ms. protocol. What are you using? I say using fibromyalgia because it’s nerve related. And they went, yep. So we got doctors looking at the protocols and they’re making if there’s not an exact match, they try something that’s close. And a lot of times it works. Um, and talk about like, um like how people are. And I think you said ten million or how many have sessions have been run? And I don’t know if you used the word sessions like how many people have used this. Now we’ve sold about twenty five thousand units and I’m just estimating they’re using it three to four times a week. So it’s about ten million sessions that were conducted out there. And boy, I wish it was a higher success rate. Probably the lowest success rate we have is prostate. It’s probably about sixty five percent because I get seventy five year old men calling me all the time yelling at me because it didn’t work. It’s like, sorry, it doesn’t work for everybody. Um, but PTSD is like ninety eight percent and most of the protocols are above ninety percent. So yeah, it’s better than most most drugs as far as the success rate. Yeah. Tell me tell me some of the like. And you mentioned calling and the the amount of people that that and the response all of that. Like like what are what are some of the stories behind this like tell me a little bit more about like some of the successes that you’ve seen. The best litmus test for this? I mean, you can self-report, right? You do before and after surveys, that type of thing. But one of the best litmus tests is your family and your friends. Yeah, they like your kids want to hang out with you now you’re not getting divorced anymore, and you’re planning to get divorced. Your wife now, like, likes you. Um, and of course, we have all kinds of suicidal stuff where they had a gun in their mouth. No. They don’t. Um, this is for people and pets, especially dogs and horses. And the amount of horse rescues that are out there where this horse is lame and suddenly they’re running in a field, right? And they shoot me videos of that stuff where horse can’t move, and now we can. Yeah. Horses. So those kinds of stories are super cool. Um, so for equine, like go further into that, the horse side of things. Like what? How does that look? I’m just curious. So it’s interesting because if you go man on the street and you say, hey, with a microphone, do you know what PMF is about? One out of fifteen people will say yes, and it’s because they know what a Beamer mat is, or from a chiropractor or a spa in the horse world. One hundred percent of horse owners know what it is. They know what the wave is. They know what the big machine is because the veterinarians come out and treated their horse or another horse in the stable, so they’re very familiar with it. Mhm. Where you tap into it and it’s always my avatar in the horse world is a fifty two year old cowgirl. Yeah. And they all want to go. That little two point four ounce device. Can’t do nothing for a thousand pound animal. You want to bet. So what it is, is basically a, um. I got one right here. It’s basically a a arm holder armband holder with a elastic strap that goes around the horse’s neck. Mhm. So just like humans, you have a vagus nerve that comes down both sides of your neck. And that’s where you can tap into the whole nervous system. And so it’s basically a thing that sits on the side of the horse’s neck. And for dogs we have a harness where it goes over their heart. Mhm. We have I had one veterinarian tell me his name is doctor Tom. He’s in Myrtle Beach. Super cool guy. Um, he said, Mark, I own every PMF device there is. All of them. You’re the best, I think, because you put it on the heart. Because the vagus nerve comes and it clusters around the heart and then goes to the organs. So that was just a logical place to put it. And then the vagus nerve on a per. So we have a pendant that you just wear like a necklace for the vagus nerve just lays near your heart. So lots of success. Unfortunately, all the horse rescue people in the world found out. I give them away for free. A lot of times. So then I have every person call me every day wanting free product. I’m like, Mark’s going to go broke, okay? It’s like, I gotta sell some. Yes, gotta sell some of them. So all the horse rescue people listening, please don’t ask me for free ones. I’m out of free ones. Okay, so. But yeah, that’s super exciting to see what it does with dogs and horses or a dog that can jump off a couch. Now they can’t. You know, the hip dysplasia thing helps with that. So it’s really cool to see dogs that can’t really walk anymore. Now they can’t. Right? So one other story real quick. This is one of my favorite ones is if this doesn’t raise a hair in your arms, you’re not human being. Um, seventeen year old girl said, hey, Mark, I’ll never have a date in my life because I have Tourette’s. All the boys at school hate me. I’m. I get bullied every day. It’s awful. She goes, I ran the brain balancing protocol and my Tourette’s disappeared. And I have a date Saturday night. Wow. Then she ended up marrying the guy two years later. Stop. Seriously? And I never told her to run. Brain balancing. I didn’t know it would get rid of Tourette’s, but in this case, it did. And it’s never come back for her. She’s never had a case of it again. Um, there’s some really cool things like that that happen, and you’re like, it’s it is magic. Yeah, I know it’s magic, but you get enough data and stuff, enough success stories that, um, there’s something there. It’s really working. What? What are your plans for continuing this rollout and continuing to get any more units into households and really into the hands of people that need them? Like, talk a little bit more about your plans as you as you, you know, um, distribute this product. I wish Zuckerberg would give me some of my money back, because it costs way more to sell one of these marketing wise, and it doesn’t mean right. So the Facebook ads are extremely expensive. We’re on Sirius XM radio, we’re on Google. But I used to get we sell ten packs and one hundred packs as wholesalers. I used to get a new wholesaler every two to three months. Now I get a couple a day. Wow. And here’s what typically, here’s a typical scenario a patient will walk into a doctor’s office and they’ll go, the doctor will go, oh my God, your A1c’s five point six. It’s never been below nine. Okay, finally changed your diet. You finally started doing what I told you to do and they go, no, I started using this and the doctor snatches it out of their hands. They call me and go, what the hell is this thing? I explained to him what it is I was doing for blood sugar, so I get more and more doctors on board now as wholesalers from customers right there, patients coming in and selling the product for us. So my goal literally I have to look at the finances every month, like, am I losing money again this month because the marketing, it costs a lot of money to make noise. Yeah, it costs a lot of money to make noise. And so I’m trying to move in that direction. We’ve got I just showed you the pendant. We just came out with the only quad peptide anti wrinkle cream where you you can infuse this energy into the actual cream. And so this last Friday is a anti wrinkle cream I’m afraid you’ve mentioned this but this is for Alzheimer’s. And we got to finish running the study first before I can even sell those. So the FDA doesn’t lose their minds on me. But I’m super excited about that. Is MIT discovered about ten years ago that you can reverse Alzheimer’s with forty hertz light. They discovered it by complete accident. They were doing a completely different study with rats in a box, and they had basically a white rope light flickering at forty hertz. And so they they’re doing human trials and everything now to which we’re going to do our own trials as well. But it’s got PMF magnetic field and blue light, both at forty hertz. So to answer your question is I’m super excited about that product. If you and your listeners. Right. And I have friends too, that their parents had Alzheimer’s. It’s the most devastating thing ever to a family. Yeah. I mean, I’ve had friends quit their jobs to take care of their parents. Right. Just ended their careers and stuff. So I’m really excited about that. We have a watch that came out last Friday to measure biomarkers. So which is got an argument with two customers today. They go there’s no way that can measure blood sugar. Yeah it actually can without pricking your finger Here. Interesting. So it has blood pressure, heart rate variability, blood sugar. And so this is the thing to measure that it’s working instead of just, you know, very subjective before and after reports or litmus test of your friends. We now have a way to measure sleep and heart rate variability. If those two things improve, your life’s going in the right direction. Those are probably the two best biomarkers to go measure, which it does both of those. So we’re excited about that. Man that’s amazing. This is uh, this is awesome for those doctors or otherwise. Like when you talk about the distributors, the wholesaler like who who’s typically a good fit for that. I’m curious because we got we have a large audience and maybe there’s some other potential distributors out there, like who’s typically a good fit. It’s usually not going to be a standard MD who’s been trained with the standard. Right. It’s going to be a naturopath, some chiropractors, it’s going to be somebody that’s an alternative medicine or is looking outside the box or they’re The extreme and she’s passed. But my last doctor I had is like, I’d show her something on a piece of paper and she goes, nope. I don’t even want to read it. I’m going to do it the American Medical Association says to do and nothing else. I’m like, you don’t want to learn anything new? She’s like, nope. So it’s not those people. Okay. But it’s people that are more and more. And it’s what I said is customers coming in and going, hey, do you know about this thing? Because it’s working, right? And so it’s more of customers telling the doctors for the most part. Yeah. And it’s not their fault. It’s just doctors continuing education. A typical MD is a drug company that takes them to a resort, right. And introduces the new drug to them. This is this year’s new drug. That’s that’s what their continuing education is. For the most part, they’re not out looking at alternative therapies, especially not in the United States. Mm. So and learning more about about Arizona Health, of course. And and your journey as an entrepreneur and also as a, as an inventor. Um, that being said, um, what’s next? I mean, what’s next for you? What’s next for Arizona Health? Well, I’d say we’ve had several new products with the cream stuff came out on Friday. Actually, my dream is to put myself out of business. Um, if you I said it could be delivered with light, sound, vibration, electrical current. Right. I would love to be able to take smart bulbs and run the frequencies through the lights. That’s already in people’s homes. Wow. Smart bulbs. Which. I already designed it and built it. But when you turn a light switch on, the light doesn’t just come on. It takes about one hundred milliseconds or whatever. So it’s designed so your eyes don’t get shocked with immediate light. But I need to be able to turn it on and off a thousand times a second. So I got to get around the bridge. So if anyone at Philips would call me back, they won’t. And show me how to get around the stupid bridge on these smart bulbs. We could make all these. You could go, hey, picture this. Hey, Alexa, run depression in the living room. Wow. That’s all you got to say. The other one is. And I put out twenty five thousand dollars reward, and nobody’s been able to do it yet. The coil on your phone to charge your battery, hack the OS on the phone so that the frequencies go out of the coil instead of putting power in. And I offered twenty five thousand dollars reward on Facebook and they all go, you can’t do that. You can’t hack the system. I just haven’t found the right person to tell me how to hack it yet. If I could do that, I could turn every cell phone into a vibe and not just have an app for one dollar ninety nine cents something, and then everyone would have access to it. Oh man. Mark, this is would have all my money, right? You could just do that and just get the app out there. Right. So those two things are really my dream. Um, hopefully they happen someday. Oh man, I love this. How do people connect with you? How do people connect? How do they follow up? Rizona Honorhealth is the website there’s I put out a new book Friday. A lot of things happened last Friday called oh yeah, I’ve Been busy, so Go Find Joy is my new book that’s out there. They can go get that. There’s a book that’s a dollar on the website called What on Earth Are We Doing to Our Health? So they can go read the book and stuff? It’s an easy read that will explain what we talked about and give them some more background. But it’s not dot com. Arizona Arizona Health is website perfect. And for everybody watching just so you know we’ll definitely put some links in the show notes. So you can just click on the links and head right on over. And speaking of the audience, if this is your first time with Mission Matters and you haven’t done it yet, hit that subscribe or follow button. This is a daily show. Each and every day we’re bringing you new content, new ideas, and hopefully new inspiration to help you along the way in your journey as well. So again, hit that subscribe or follow button. And Mark, thanks again for coming on the show. It’s been a pleasure. Hey, it’s been a pleasure for me. Thank you for having me.
