Bullionite Asset Group’s CIO shares how gold, crypto, and education can help investors protect and grow their portfolios.
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In this episode of Mission Matters, Adam Torres interviews Mukarram Mawjood, Chief Investment Officer of Bullionite Asset Group. Mawjood explains how investors can use alternative assets like physical gold, silver, and crypto to hedge against risk and gain true control over their financial futures. His philosophy: educate, invest, succeed. Whether you’re navigating a volatile market or planning your retirement, Mukarram’s approach combines smart strategy with deep financial empowerment.
About Mukarram Mawjood
Mukarram Mawjood has lived and was educated in three major global financial regions as diverse as Asia, the Middle East and the United States of America. This is especially important now when understanding the evolving needs of a global financial world. He continues to trade the global markets and educate his followers from his office in Newport Beach, California.
Mr. Mawjood has traded extensively in the energy markets, particularly crude oil and its by-products during its historic bull run from 2006 into the summer of 2008, and the precious metals complex, especially gold and silver, during their respective bull runs from 2009–2011. He maintains strategic consulting relationships with entities that have more than $250M in assets.
About Bullionite Asset Group
Bullionite Asset Group teaches individuals how to create money not by working long hours building someone else’s company or dream, but through intellectual and simple mathematical analysis of the markets using proven and precise methods. If one were to ask the next 10 people they meet if they would be interested in the power to create money, almost all if not all would say yes. But how to create money is the trick, and Bullionite Asset Group teaches this talent.
For the average retail trader, half the battle is the human condition. Bullionite deconstructs individual behaviors, helps clients handle specific forms of stress related to trading, and applies the corrections necessary to make them creators of personal wealth.
Together, the group brings the insights needed to build and improve trading performance through a step-by-step plan to become a better and more profitable trader.
As long as the client is serious about their training, with the merger of understanding the psychology of trading fused with the simple mathematics of Bullionite’s actionable steps, they will become the ultimate trader. It will build them into the individual, profitable trader they have always wanted to become.
Full Unedited Transcript
Hey, I’d like to welcome you to another episode of Mission Matters. My name is Adam Torres, and if you’d like to apply to be a guest in the show, just head on over to mission matters.com and click on B our guest to apply. All right, so today my guest is Mukarram Mawjood, and he is the CIO over at Bullionite Asset Group.
Well, Mukarram , welcome to the show. Thank you for having me, Adam. All right. So excited about today’s conversation. We we’re gonna be talking about some alternative assets. We’re gonna talk about avoiding financial landmines and really mastering the, mental game I under, just to get us kicked off here.
Some clarification here. I understand that you’re undergoing a name change, right? From two Bullionite Asset Group. Maybe let’s start there so that those that know you under the other name they’ll know exactly what, going on. I think that’s breaking news on my part. I love it. Yeah, definitely.
I mean, we’ve been Blackstone Commodity Group for a better part of a decade, right? Mm-hmm. And we’ve helped significant, like we’ve helped individuals with protecting their retirement assets with alternative assets like physical metals, cryptocurrency, and things like that. But with the landscape of how alternative assets have performed and how we’ve done our education, especially since we have the educational arm of our company’s called Ignite.
So we are changing our name from Blackstone Commodity Group. To Bullionite Asset Group. Mm. That way there’s more uniformity between the two entities, and then we can continue to serve the clients the way we have done over the last decade or so. Yeah. let’s go a little bit further back. Like, so how did you get started in this business?
Where’d that begin for you? Yeah, I mean, I was a commodities broker and then trader, right? Mm-hmm. Features, contracts and all that. And then when the 2008, 2009. crash happened. There was a lot of clients who would reach out to us and be like, Hey, you know, I don’t understand what’s going on. You know, why isn’t my broker picking up the phone?
Like, you know, in the other brokerage firms they had accounts at, and that’s where we shifted towards like really education. That’s why if you look at our tagline, educate. Mm-hmm. Invest, succeed, right? So we want our clients to get really educated about the markets and what they, and then from that education, invest and then succeed.
And that’s what led to alternative assets because we could see the US dollar weakening over time. Right? Mm-hmm. And the amount of debt that was being piled on and all of the, you know, financial and political decisions that were taking at that time. So we got into physical metals and gold at that time was about $600 an ounce, right?
Mm-hmm. And then we were able to help clients get out of the stock market going to physical metals like gold and silver. And then gold ran from 600 to about $1,900, right? Silver went from eight and a half dollars an ounce to almost 49 and a half, and that was our start in really helping clients diversify outta stocks and bonds, going to alternative assets, especially physical assets, and then not just protect their portfolios, but also accomplish growth and net worth appreciation.
I feel like sometimes when we use the word alternative assets not everybody like kind of gets what that means. Maybe like, clarify a little bit when we talk about alternative assets. Yeah, that’s a great question. So let’s just peel the layers on that, right? Mm-hmm. Alternative assets. Are different from stocks and bonds, like all retail investors.
Everyone’s familiar with stocks and bonds. Yeah. Right. But alternative assets fall under mostly commodities. Like if you look at oil, gold, silver, cryptocurrencies, land. Mm-hmm. Right. These are alternative assets. But the problem that people have when it comes to alternative assets is they think it’s too complicated or they don’t know how to get involved in it.
Mm-hmm. Right. But it’s very simple. If you’re working with individuals. and like a team like mine or you are working with me where we can hold your hand and kind of show you how to do this. Like for example, if you want to take part in gold or silver, because you’ve seen gold started running up, right?
Mm-hmm. Then understand that you can do physical metal, you can do ETFs, futures contracts, and then. Work with someone who can help you do that transition. Like let’s say you have a retirement account, right? That has been in the stock market and you’re worried about an upcoming recession or a geopolitical in induced massive correction that can maybe half your net worth, right?
Like a 50% haircut. Then what you do is you can do. A transfer we call it a lateral transfer of assets. You can move money from one IRA into a self-directed IRA, and then you can actually have physical metals like gold. Mm-hmm. Silver. You can have cryptocurrencies, no taxes, no penalties if you do it correctly.
And that’s where we really help you. So that’s what alternative assets are. They’re not stocks, they’re not bonds. But they’re the other assets that will allow you to hedge your stock portfolio or your 401k. Like let’s say if you are, 59 and a half or older, you can even do an inservice rollover and move a portion of your 401k and protect yourself from a recession or a geopolitical induced correction.
Mm-hmm. And so when you think about alternatives in the alternative space many people think, and I shouldn’t say everybody, I think it’s getting more and more acceptable to hold alternative assets and things like a self-directed IRA, whereas in the past that was kind of think, thought about maybe a little bit.
You go back 10 years, 15 years a little bit more. It wasn’t quite as. Clarified, what type of assets you could put in, and also I guess the rules around it, like people are just not quite comfortable with that. now I don’t work in that space. You work in it day in and day out. Like would you say that like it’s evolved since you’ve been doing this the last decade in the, in this particular space?
Like has it evolved a bit for you or what do you think?
Yeah, I think definitely people have become more comfortable. Right. Mm-hmm. And I think that concepts come from the education that’s out there. Yeah. And actually seeing what those alternative assets and experiencing what it can do to their portfolio.
To their network. Mm-hmm. Like, look at gold, it’s a, you know, almost double in price within a year or so, right? Mm-hmm. Even going back the cycle 2016 and 19, like when COVID happened, what happened? You know, there’s different ways that you can actually move money from the stock market. Right. Whether you have it in a qualified plan, like a retirement account or a non-qualified plan mm-hmm.
The where you can then diversify your money and then people have seen like a self-directed IRA is not this complicated, like a very fearful thing. It’s, you know, a way, if you’re working with the correct institution or group of people, they can help you get to that transition, make that transition, and then become successful at it.
So that’s why mm-hmm. I think. Mm-hmm. It has evolved. You’re absolutely correct. People are getting more comfortable. And also I believe in this a lot. Mm-hmm. You should take destiny, like take control of your destiny, of your money, right? Mm-hmm. And self-directed IRAs allow you to do that. And alternative assets allow you to do that.
So you’re not at the mercy of brokerage houses and you know, the stock market ups and downs. There is a way that you can take control of the, of your money. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And now you, you did mention education and I know that’s a big piece of what you do as well. Maybe talk about that component of your platform.
I. Well, for me, education is at the core of everything that we do, and that’s because I believe that a client that is more aware of what you’re doing is more educated of the different strategies. Now, you don’t have to understand all of the fazi sequences and all of the technical indicators that we use.
Right. But if you are working with individuals. Who are genuinely like helpful. They want you to get educated because, you know, I got a lot of flack for this, right? Like Slack for a long time ago where when we were educating clients with how we take trades or why we take a particular market, or the trend cycles, people are, well, why are you doing this?
It’s because an educated client is a more powerful client, right? Mm-hmm. And when you work with them. Then you can accomplish their goals faster and you can accomplish some very powerful goals. Because think about this, and this is why I always say this, start helping clients look at their portfolios more like how the smart money approaches it or the hedge funds approach it.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Allow your clients to get comfortable. With moving from one asset to another, right. At the opportune times or mathematically prime times. That way you actually get this net worth appreciation because what’s the point in investing for 20 or 30 years? Mm-hmm. And ultimately you’ve gotten a 10% return.
Or a net 15% return, right? Yeah. That’s not changing your life. So this is why it’s better to get comfortable and get educated on this. So that’s why I have bullion night, and if you go to bull knight.com where we do a lot of trader education, that does not mean we don’t trade you, we don’t educate you to become a day trader.
Okay? Yeah. That’s not our goal. But we want you to understand high probability setups, how to get in and get out of a trade, because you know, you’ll understand one of the biggest things with mitigating risk is taking caution. Mm-hmm. Yeah. People don’t know how to take profit. Right. And we teach them that.
Hmm. What are some of the common financial landmines, like those, those pitfalls that investors should watch out for when they’re like pursuing aggressive growth strategies? Like, what are some of those? How can they mitigate the risk? I think there are two main pitfalls. Okay. The first is when you build a position in a high growth.
Environment like in an alternative asset, okay? Mm-hmm. Let’s say you’ve become comfortable with alternative assets and now you’ve done made the move. Here’s what I’ve seen. You have to understand your why, and you have to understand the market cycle of the asset and its personality. Yes, I say personality because assets have personality.
Gold has its personality. Crude art has a personality, right? And here’s what I mean by this. Don’t get formal when another alternative asset. Is running up while yours is still taking its time. Mm-hmm. And I’m gonna give you an example, a couple of years ago, you know, we got in heavy into gold, right? And for a variety of reasons, because we could see this coming, okay?
But then some clients, they saw this meteoric rise in Bitcoin, right? Mm-hmm. And they started getting frustrated. You know, so don’t change strategies just because you don’t understand how these two assets move, like gold versus Bitcoin, Now gold is not an asset that moves a hundred or 200% in a short time, right?
Mm-hmm. Bitcoin does. So don’t ask gold to act like Bitcoin. Yeah. You see, I know people who got out of gold because it wasn’t moving fast enough. Then chased Bitcoin, then later regretted it because the, the exit from gold. Mm. Because gold started a massive bull run that almost doubled its price, right? So right now, guess what?
The same thing’s happening with silver. A lot of people are, you know, frustrated with silver not moving up as much as gold this year, right? Mm-hmm. But if you start having formal about a position. That you don’t understand how the correlations are or the inverse correlations are, that’s where you’ll miss the trade.
Okay. So that’s one major pitfall. And that’s where I think a lot of people leave so much profits on the table, or they always, you know, you’ve heard this complaint or I always lose money. Like I hear that from clients. That’s because you have fomo and you don’t understand the why of why you got into an asset.
Right? Yeah. Now, the other big thing, Adam, that I’ll say mm-hmm. Is profit taking. Profit taking. Because a lot of the retail investors, they don’t know how to take profit or they don’t want to take profits, and the reason for that is because they lack the confidence. To identify or find the next trade that can make them money.
Mm. So they’re frozen and they’re scared to get out of this one profitable trade that they might have had for the year, and it’s doing so well. Right? Like Nvidia or whatever they were in. Right. They don’t get out because they don’t know how to take that next trade. That’s where the education comes in big, where we teach clients on how to identify.
And then get in and get out. The operative work being get out mm-hmm. Of high probability setups. Right. You get in, then you get, make your profit, because if you don’t take your profits, the market will take it away from you. Hmm. Yeah, this is good stuff. And when you talk about, I wanna know what target demographic, like what kind of investors are you working with?
Is this for credit investors? Is this for smaller investors? Only, you know, you know, ultra high net worth. Like what’s your sweet spot? You know, they don’t have to be accredited because you’re not doing ppms and things like that. Yep. Right? Yep. We we’re helping individuals, the average person who wants to accomplish their goals, meaning, for example, let’s say you have a million dollar portfolio or a half a million dollar portfolio, but you know that’s not gonna grow at the rate that you want it to.
When you’re planning on retiring, right? So I would say individuals who haven’t still gotten their net worth appreciation, even though they’ve been in the stock market for maybe 10 years or 20 years, those are the individuals that I love working with because we can accomplish their goals together, right?
Mm-hmm. So if you have a million dollar portfolio and you’d love to see it, you know, go to a certain number that can accomplish some of your own personal goals. Get in touch with me. Mm-hmm. That’s how we wanna make sure that, because, and I say this a lot of the times, trading and investing is 75% mental, 25% math and skill.
Okay? So we help with that mental game as well, where you begin to get comfortable and you understand yourself and you have this emotional intelligence. That will allow you to start making a difference in your net worth because a 10% return, a 20% return is great, but if it’s not changing your net worth, it’s not going to do any benefit for you later on in life.
Yeah. Well, first off, this has been great. A lot of fun learning more about you, your business, your, your track record as a trader. I mean, that being said, if somebody’s listening to this or wants to follow up, how do they do that? Best thing is you could come to blackstone commodity.com.
For now, it the, the name is changing as we went over today, right? To bull that asset group. But if you come there, you’ll get all our information on self-directed IRAs because if you have a retirement account or if you have a 401k or a previous 401k that you want to protect from a possible recession or a geopolitical turmoil issue.
Then that’s the best way, right? That’s kind of our best demographic, right? Mm-hmm. That they want to protect their retirement accounts. If you want have gold and silver, so blackstone commodity.com and you can go there and you can get in touch with us. My direct office number, just so that everyone can have it, is 9 4 9.
207 0 4 7 if you want the trader education where you say, Hey, you know what? I have these frustrations. Whether you’re a basic like an intro trader, or even if you are you know, like a medium or an advanced trader and you’re having some frustrations on why you’re not getting the performance you want, go to bull knight.com.
That’s where you’ll know all of our trading education programs that we have and how we can work together. Wonderful. And for the audience, just so you know, we’ll definitely put the links in the show notes so you can just hit the link and, head right on over. And speaking of the audience, if this is your first time with Mission Matters and you haven’t done it yet, hit that subscribe or follow button.
This is a daily show. Each and every day we’re bringing you new content, new ideas, and hopefully new inspiration to help you along the way in your journey as well. So again, hit that subscribe or follow button and Mukarram . Thanks again for coming on the show. Thank you, Adam. Appreciate it.